Dolder v. Lord Huntingfield. St. Didier v. Lord Huntingfield.
HIGH COURT OF CHANCERY
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Original Citation: (1805) 11 Ves Jun 283
English Reports Citation: 32 E.R. 1097
Nov. 20th, 1805.
See Mason v. Wakeman, 1848, 2 Ph. 517; Republic of Peru v. Dreyfus,
1888, 38 Ch. D. 358.
Dolder v. Lord Huntingfield.
St. Didier v. Lord Huntingfield.- Nov. 10th, 1805.
Whether a Defendant can by answer
refuse the discovery, insisting, that he is not bound to answer, Qucere. But.
having given part of the discovery, he was compelled to answer as to the rest.
Whether a foreign State, not acknowledged by this country, can maintain a suit
here, viz. the Government of Switzerland, in consequence of the Revolution,
suing for Stock, vested in trustees by the former Government, Queers.
The Bill in the first of these
causes stated, that previously to 1798 the magistrates and persons, in whom the
powers of government of the several Swiss [284] cantons were respectively
vested, remitted large sums to their agents in this country, for the purpose of
being invested in the public funds ; and that large sums were so remitted by
the governments of the cantons of Berne and Zurich, and the town of Neufchatel
; which were part of the public monies of the said cantons and town
respectively ; which sums were invested accordingly for the public use of such
cantons.
The Bill then stated the several
funds, in 1798 standing in the books of the Bank of England and the South Sea
Company, in the names of the Advoyer the Less and Grand Council of the city and
canton of Berne, the Burgomaster the Less and Grand Council of the canton or
state of Zurich, and the town and citizens of Neufchatel; that prior to 1798
the said cantons of Switzerland were separate and independent states, connected
by a certain league ; and in that year the several cantons became united and
consolidated into one independent State or CommonÁwealth, which assumed the
name of the Helvetic Republic ; and have ever since remained so united ; and
from that time the said several states or cantons ceased to exist ; and there
were no persons, answering the description of the former respective governments.
The Bill farther stated, tbat by a
law of the Helvetic Republic, passed on the 12th of March 1799, it was
declared, that the property, acquired by the then late governÁments of the said
cantons, as representing the sovereignty, was national property ; that part of
said funds (specifying them) has been assigned by the Helvetic Republic to
Antoine St. Didier, of the city of Paris, merchant. The Bill then stated the
title of the Plaintiffs, as the Llandamman and two Stathalters of the
Hel-[2Q5]-vetic Republic ; in whom by the constitution of the Republic the
executive power is vested ; and prayed, that the Defendants, the Bank of
England and the South Sea Company, may be decreed to transfer to the
Plaintiffs, and to pay the dividends accrued ; and that the other Defendants,
the agents, may be decreed to pay the dividends, received by them.
The agents by their answer,
admitting the remittances, and investment of the
money in the funds, &c., and
that prior to 1798 the cantons of Switzerland were
separate and independent states,
connected by a league, stated, that in 1798 a
revolution took place in
Siuifeerlanil : and tbat the said several states and cantons.
G. xii.-35*
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VES. JTJN. 286.
and among others the cantons of Berne and Zurich, ceased to exist, or to
be separate and independent states ; and that there was not from tins time of
such revolution any person, in whom the. government of Bern?, and Zurich was
vested, or answering the description of " Advoyer the Less and L! rand
Council of the City and Canton of " Berne, the Burgomaster the Less and
Grand Council of the Canton or State of " Zurich, and the Town and
Citizens of Ncufchatel" ; and that they are informed and believe, another
Revolution lias taken place in Switzerland ; and the powers of government are
now vested iti different persons from those, in whom they were vested at the
times, when the transactions in the Bill mentioned are represented to have
taken place. They submitted, that the Plaintiffs upon their own shewing by
their Bill have no title to the relief prayed, or to any account of the
dividends, from the Defendants ; and that the Attorney Ueneral ought to be a
party.
A similar Bill was in January 1803
filed by St. Didier, described as residing at Paris, claiming under the
assignment ; and a similar answer was put in. The [286] Master having reported
the answer insufficient in each cause, Exceptions were taken to the Report. The
Defendants had, after the expiration of the usual time, applied for leave to
demur ; which was refused.
Mr. Richards, Mr. Hollist, and Mr.
Wintkrop, in support of the Exceptions, upon the question, whether the
Defendants, having put in an answer, were bound to answer throughout, cited
Neuman v. Godfrey (2 Bro. 0. C. 332) : Jerrard v. Saunders (2 Ves. jun. 454) :
a case in the Court of Exchequer ; upon a Bill by a vicar against the occupier
; who by answer denied the right of the vicar ; but did not set forth the
quantity and value ; and an Exception was over-ruled ; which decision was
followed by a late case in the same Court.
They also insisted, that the Bill
states no title in the Plaintiffs ; neither, that the new government is
recognized by the government of this country : nor, that it is the legitimate
government: that, though every State may by consent of the Sovereign and
inhabitants change the form of the government, nothing like force, conquest, or
subjugation, can give a title in a Court of Justice : the facts, that a French
army had entered Switzerland, and gained possession of the country by force
after much blood-shed, were so notorious, that they may be stated in a Court of
Justice ; and under such circumstances it could not be represented, that the
Union took place with the free will and consent of the Government and
inhabitants ; which free will and consent are essential; and the law of the
Helvetic, Republic was merely declaraÁtory ; and could not give the right, not
given by the Union.
Mr. Romilly and Mr. Bell, for the
Plaintiffs. [287] The question is, whether these trustees, having admitted,
that this fund is in their hands, and, that they have received the dividends,
shall not state, what dividends they have received. Upon the general question,
whether a Defendant may by answer insist, that he is not bound to answer, there
are many contradictory decisions : but it was never decided, that a Defendant,
having answered as to particular facts, may stop short ; and refuse to give any
farther answer, as to the circumstances attending those facts. The proposition
is most material. Great inconvenience would follow from receiving the objection
at the hearing instead of by plea or demurrer. The party may die ; and the
whole benefit of the suit may be lost by not compelling the Defendant to answer
in the first instance. Shall the party take the benefit of the delay ? What
recompence can the Court make to the other party ; in whose favour the Decree
is at last made ; the object of the discovery being completely gone 1
The result of all the decisions is,
that, where a Defendant has submitted to answer, he is bound, unless in some
particular case, to answer fully. As a general proposition, where the Bill is
filed for relief and discovery, if the Defendant submits to answer, he is bound
to answer fully, unless from particular circumstances he can shew something,
exempting him from the general obligation to answer. There are two excepted
cases, proving the rule : 1st, where the discovery tends to criminate the
person, from whom it is sought. That is so fundamental a rule of the law of
this country, that Equity, interfering to prevent the application of the
general law to work injustice, will not interfere against that rule. The other
exception is a purchase for valuable consideration : where by accident, perhaps
negligence, the plea is defective in form ; and the whole [288] relief is
substantially obtained by the discovery ˜ upon which the Plaintiff may go to
law. In Gethin v. Gale (stated Amb. 354, in Sweet v. Young] IjOidllardwicke was
struck witli the hardship
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HUNTINGFIELD (u RT ) 1099
of the case ; and distinguishes it from the case of a creditor or
legatee. The cases, that followed, are Newman v. Godfrey (2 Bro. C. G. 332),
Cartwright v. Hateley (3 Bro. C. C. 238 ; 1 Ves. jun. 292), Shepherd v. Roberts
(3 Bro. (.!. C. 239), Hall v. Noyes (.'
Bro. C. C. 483). The Court cannot in every case judge of the
materiality. Jacobs v. Goodman (in the Court of Exchequer, 3 Bro. ('!. C. 487,
n.) has always been pressed ; upon the argument, that in this way any man might
compel the first mercantile house in London to account. That argument has
always been disallowed by Lord Thurlow ; though it had weight with the Court of
Exchequer in that case ; and was in a subsequent case taken up by Lord Rosslyn.
Selby v. Selby (4 Bro. C. C. 11). Jerrard v. Saunders (2 Ves. jun. 454). The
Marquis of Donegal v. Stewart (3 Ves. 44G), and Phelips v. Caney (4 Ves. 107),
are the only cases, besides Jacobs v. Goodman (in the Court of Exchequer, 3
Bro. C. C. 487, n.), in which the Defendant was held not bound to answer fully
; and no reason is given ; except in Jacobs v. Goodman, which goes upon the
hardship in the case of a partnership. That case might be met by a plea ; which
is not confined in time, as a demurrer is. The books and papers would furnish
the strongest evidence, whether there was a partnerÁship, or not; and the
strongest inference arises from declining that production. This would lead to
an examination of the propriety or impropriety of the discovery in every case.
In The Marquis of Donegal v. Stewart there was no inconvenience in compelling
the Defendant to discover [289] the prices of the pictures : but there was
great inconvenience the other way : the, very object of the Bill being to
detect the imposition. Suppose, in Pfielips v. Caney the Defendant had
admitted, that 100 was due; and, that he had assets for that : upon the
particular statement of the Bill perhaps that answer would have been sufficient
: but, if it is to go beyond that, it directly over-rules what Lord Hardwicke
says as to a creditor and legatee in Gethin v. Gale ; that they are entitled to
an account; which must suppose a debt or legacy disputed. The result of all the
authorities, from Siveet v. Young (Amb. 353) down to Jacobs v. Goodman, is,
that the Defendant must take advantage of his situation by plea or demurrer ;
and in Jacobs v. Goodman the Court appears to have been struck with the
argument, that in this way bankers might by the suggestion of a partnership be
compelled to set forth all their accounts. These Defendants do not put
themselves upon the point, that they are in such a situation, tliat they are
not bound to answer : but, admitting, that to a certain extent, as to the funds
themselves, they must answer, insist, that they will stop short; and refuse to
go into the particulars.
It is objected, that the Bill should
state, either, that the new government is recognized by the government of this
country ; or, that it is the legitimate governÁment of the country. That
argument is not conformable to the rules of pleading in this Court. It is not
necessary in a Bill for an annuity to state, that all the cirÁcumstances
required by the Act of Parliament have been complied with ; or, in a bill to
carry an agreement into execution, to state, that it is upon the proper stamp.
Tliose circumstances are assumed ; unless the contrary appears.
[290] The remaining question,
whether it is necessary, that the government of this country should have
recognized the new government of Switzerland, is a most important
consideration, as to the legal doctrines and the political consequences it
involves : viz. whether, when a foreign government has invested money in the
funds of this country, upon the faith of our government, merely on account of
some constitutional alteration, however inconsiderable, in the form of the
government of that country, the British government has a right to say, the
money so invested belongs to them, and not to the government of the country, by
which it was invested. That is an extraordinary proposition. Suppose,
previously to the union with Scotland the British government had money in a
foreign bank : could the governÁment of the country, in which that money was
invested, have claimed it, on the ground, that the union was riot recognized by
that government 'I The same case might have arisen upon the Revolution of 1G88.
As to the Plaintiff in the second cause, they ought to have pleaded, that he
was an alien enemy : a plea, held to great strictness both in law and equity.
The Bill states only, that he was residing at Paris in 1803 ; upon which ground
several of his Majesty's subjects might be considered alien enemies.
Mr. Richards, in Reply. Upon the
question of pleading there is certainly great want of uniformity; and the late
authorities arc in favour of the Hefendant :
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HUNTINGFIELD (LORD) 11VES. JTIN. 291.
Jacobs v. Goodman (3 Bro. G. C. 487,
n.). Jerrard v. Saunders (2 Ves. jun. 454). TAe Marquis of Donegal v. Stewart
(3 Ves. 440) ; and Phelips v. Caney (4 Ves. 107). In l-rtmn v. Prior, which is
[291] not in print, the Bill was filed by a person, claiming as heir at law. A.
plea, that he was not heir, was disallowed. Then an answer was put in ;
insisting, that the Plaintiff is not heir. Upon exceptions to the report as to
the sufficiency of that answer Lord Kenyan, sitting for Lord Thurlow, held,
that if the Plaintiff was the heir, he was entitled to all the discovery,
sought by the Bill; if he was not the heir, he was not entitled to any
discovery; that therefore the preliminary fact must be ascertained ; and an
issue was directed, upon this principle ; that, if an allegation is made by the
Defendant of a fact, destroyÁing the Plaintiff's title, whether it is by way of
plea or answer is immaterial. In either case that must be first decided. Selby
v. Selby (4 Bro. C. G. 11) was a different case ; for there was a devise to
Lawndes, in case no heir should appear within a year. He was without doubt the
acknowledged devisee ; and took possession and the year elapsed, long before
the Bill was filed. A. Bill of discovery was filed by Lowndes ; and Lord Chief
Baron Eyre said, that Bill must be answered in all its parts. The case of
Cookson v. Ellison (2 Bro. C. 0. 252), which really cannot be considered as a
decision, has had great influence in all these cases. As to Jerrard v. Saunders
(2 Ves. jun. 454), upon what ground is that an exception to the rule 1 Why is
not a purchaser as much bound to answer as any other person 1 The disÁcovery
is, not relief, but merely ancillary : the allegation being, that the Defendant
holds deeds belonging to the Plaintiff ; as the estate belongs to the
Plaintiff. If the Plaintiff could prove, that the Defendant has the
title-deeds, he would be entitled to a decree for them without putting the
Defendant to answer. A Bill to carry an agreement into execution does not aver,
that the agreement has been stamped ; as, though not stamped, it is not the
less an agreement. It [292] … enough, if it is stamped even during the hearing.
(Coles v. Trecothick, 9 Ves. 234 ; 11 Ves. 593, 5.) It is not necessary to
state, that an annuity has been duly enrolled ; as without enrolment there is
no grant, giving the party a title to sue as an annuitant. The circumstances of
this case are now matter of history.
The Lord Chancellor. You would be
obliged upon an indictment for a libel to prove, that France is now at war with
Austria ˜ not as to the war with this country : the Courts taking notice of
that with reference to our own country.
Reply. Such a body as this, not
acknowledged by this country, is not entitled to sue in the Municipal Courts of
this country. The comparison to the union with Scotland does not hold. This
country, with its government by the King and ParliaÁment, still continued the
same, with that accession. There was not an end or dissolution of the nation,
as a nation. Upon the revolution in 1G88 the constitution remained precisely
the same ; with the change only of the King, a part of the legisÁlative
sovereignty of the country : the supreme power being in the King and ParÁliament.
This is a total dissolution of the country ; not merely the introduction of a
new chief magistrate into the same country, that reposed this confidence in
these Defendants.
The Lord Chancellor [Eldon]. It is
not necessary to make any observations upon the cases, that have been cited. I
remember, it struck Lord Thurlow, who endeavoured to decide upon questions of
pleading with analogy to the law, as exÁtraordinary, that, [293] if there are
settled modes, forming the practice, according to which a Defendant is to
proceed, there could be a deviation from them. The practice required a demurrer
within a given time : or the Defendant could not demur alone ; but must have
applied for leave to plead, answer, or demur ; not demurring alone. Most of the
cases, that have been stated, are distinct from this ; tor in those cases,
taking the bill to be true, neither the Plaintiff, nor the Defendant, had any
doubt, that the Plaintiff was entitled to relief. For instance, where a
partner, prays a partnership account, if the partnership is admitted, the
relief follows. So, where the Plaintiff is admitted to be a creditor or
legatee, the bill sustains itself against any thing, suggesting that no relief
is due. But cases in modern times have said, that, if the Defendant denies some
substantive fact, which, if admitted, would give relief, until the truth of
that fact is disposed of, no farther answer shall be compelled. Many topics of
great weight must be disposed of, when that case comes to be decided ; if it is
still open. The Court has got to a species of plea ; which is, neither a plea,
answer, or demurrer; but a little of each. The consequence
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is, that the Commission must go to a number of facts ; instead of one ;
as in the case of a plea. The late cases, as far as they are authorities, as to
which I say nothing now, establish this ; that if the bill is both by the
Plaintiff and the Defendant allowed to give a right to the relief, if true, the
Defendant, not demurring, not denying by answer the title to relief upon the
bill, but negativing one fact positively, says, the Court, if they will take
that fact not to be true, ought not to call for an answer. In order to make
those cases authorities for the Defendants, they must say, that, taking the
case, made by the bill to be true, they deny some leading fact. But that is not
this case.
[294] The principle, upon which I
dispose of this question upon the Master's Report, is not connected in any
degree with the merits of this cause. The question of merits is not decided by
the Maryland Case, which does not touch such a case as this ; a foreign
independent state. (Barclay v. Russell, 3 Ves. 424. See The Nabob of the
Carnatic v. The East India Company, 1 Ves. jun. 371; 2 Ves. jun. 56; 3 Bro. G.
C. 292.) That state was only a corporation under the Great Seal, dissolved by
means, which a Court of Justice was obliged to consider rebellious ; and then
the transfer of the title from the state of Maryland to any other state was a
question, a Court of Justice could look at, as a question of law, only in one
way; and the principle was, that the Court could not admit, that the title
passed to the independent states of America by an act which we were obliged to
call " rebellion.7' What national justice was to do, after national policy
had arranged the relative situation of the countries, was to be decided, and
was decided, elsewhere. This is perfectly different. No civil offence has been
committed against this country by the dissolution of the former government, or
the arrangement of the present government, in Switzerland. The question is
therefore to be discussed upon great principles of the law of nations ; without
attending to the situation of the DefendÁants, as subjects of this country. If
it is true, that the Plaintiffs have shewn, that they have no title whatever to
the relief (for that is the proposition), the rules of the Court require a
demurrer ; before the Defendant comes here to ask for time to plead, answer, or
demur, not demurring alone. The proposition is extraordinary, that a person, in
a situation, in which he must answer, and may, and is sometimes called upon to,
state the want of parties, can say, that, as the suit hereafter cannot be
effectual for want of parties, he will not answer at present. I do not
understand the principle of that. I do not say, whether the Attorney General is
a necessary party.
[295] The Defendants applied for
leave to demur alone ; having got themselves into a situation, in which they
could not do that. Then the answer is quite new in this respect; that the
Defendants, not being allowed to demur to the discovery or the relief, will
discover what they please ; and refrain from discovering the rest; putting in
an answer that objection both to the discovery and relief, which ought to have
come by demurrer. Upon that ground, refusing this, I cannot be said to shake
any of those decisions.
As to the question, Whether, if a
new state was to arise in Europe, a Court of Justice is to take notice of it;
if it does not appear by averment on the record ; or upon an allegation,
according to information and belief, that a revolution has taken place; first,
those last words are too loose: 2dly, it is not easy to decide, what a
revolution means in a Court of Justice ; for, when a sovereign and the whole
nation give their individual consent to the change, that is in a sense a
revolution. There is another sense of that word, much more grievous. But I do
not know, that I can give a legal construction to such a word, unless a sense
has been put upon it by authority in this country. My opinion is, that these
Defendants must answer.
There is no difference in the other
case, except, that the objection ought to come in a different form; with the
observation, that it is too much for me to suppose, that the title, made by the
former government, would meet with no attention from the present government.
The exceptions were over-ruled.(l)
(1) See Taylor v. Milner, 11 Ves.
41. Faulder v. Stuart, the next case. The general point, that a Defendant
cannot by Answer refuse to answer fully, has been since decided. See the note,
11 Vi-s. 42 ; 1 Vex. jun. 293. In the Court of Ex-
1102 b'AULDER V. STUART
11 VES. JT/N. 296.
chequer, where Exceptions uoiue immediately before the Court, the rule
is the other way : John v. Dacie, 13 Pri. 632.