Ogden against Folliott, in Error.
IN THE COURT OF KING'S BENCH
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Original Citation: (1790) 3 TR 726
English Reports Citation: 100 E.R. 825
Friday, June 11th, 1790.
Referred to, Phillips v. Eyre, 1870, L. R. 6 Q. B. 27; Huntington v.
Attrill [1893], A. C. 156.
Ogden against Folliott, in Error. Friday, June llth, 1790. The Acts of
ConfiscaÁtion passed in the several States of North America after the
Declaration of IndepenÁdence and before the treaty of peace, by which this
country acknowledged their independence, are considered as a nullity in the
Courts of Law in this country.
[Referred to, Phillips v. Eyre, 1870, L. R. 6 Q. B. 27 ; Huntington v.
Attritt
[1893], A. C. 156.]
This was an action (in the Court of Common Pleas) of
debt on bond, dated
(a) Vide Salk. 17.
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New York, October 10, 1769, for 40001. of current money of the province
of New York, North America, being 22501. of lawful money of Great Britain.
Pleas, after oyer (by which it appeared that the defendant, one Kichard Morris
and Lewis Morris, were jointly and severally bound,) 1st, Richard arid Lewis
Morris solverunt post diem ; 2dly, defendant solvit post diem ; 3dly, that at
the time of making the writing obligatory, the plaintiff, E. Morris, and the
defendant, were severally and respectively persons residing within the United
States of America, and continued so, &c. till after the 22d of October
1777. That, on that day, the sum of money, &c. being due and unpaid, &c.
and the plaintiff then residing at New York, then being one of the United
States of America, by a law of the State of New York, he waa ipso facto
attainted of the offence of adhering to the enemies of the said State of New
York, and all and singular the estate, both real and personal, held or claimed
by him, on the 22d of October 1779, was forfeited to, and vested in, the people
of New York ; which said law of the said State of New York, from thenceÁforth
hitherto hath been, and still is, in full force and effect; and that the said
writing obligatory, and all the money due thereon, became, and was, and from
thenceÁforth hitherto hath remained and continued, and still is, forfeited to,
and vested in, the people of the said State of New York, &c. 4thly, that,
at the time of the making the said writing obligatory, the above mentioned
parties were resident within the United States of America. That the defendant
was bound only as a surety for the said B. and L. Morris. That the defendant,
at the said time, &c. was resident in the State of New Jersey, then being
one of the United States of America, and in possession of real and personal
property more than sufficient to pay the said sum of 40001. and his other
debts; that on the 2d of January 1779, being so possessed, &c. he was
attainted, [727] according to the laws and statutes of the said State of New
Jersey, of adhering to the enemies of the said State, and thereby all his real
and personal estate, within the said State of New Jersey, was forfeited to, and
vested in, the said State of New Jersey, for ever; that it was provided by the
said State of New Jersey, that the property of the defendant so forfeited to,
and vested in, the said State was in the h'rst place made liable to the payment
of all his debts, and demands against him ; that, in consequence of his
attainder, all his property was seised, which at the time of the seizure was
more than sufficient to pay the said sum of 40001. and all his other debts;
that after his attainder the plaintiff was at liberty to make, and might have
made, demand of the State of New Jersey of the said sum of money due to him
upon the said writing obligatory, against the real and personal estates of the
defendant so forfeited, &c. and might have been paid thereout. Sthly, to
the same effect as the 4th, but reciting more particularly the several Acts of
Attainder, and Confiscation, passed by the State of New Jersey against the
defendant; and that the plaintiff might and ought to have demanded payment of
the bond from that State, &c. The replicaÁtion tendered issue on the 1st
and 2d pleas ; and, to the 3d plea, stated that at the time of making the said
supposed law of the State of New York, in that plea mentioned, the said State
was not one of the United States of America, but was one of His Majesty's
colonies in America, then in open rebellion against His Majesty, &c. There
was a general demurrer to the 4th and 5th pleas. The rejoinder, after joining
issue on the 1st and 2d pleas, to the third replication, stated that before the
making of the said law of the State of New Jersey, in the third plea mentioned,
to wit, on the 4th of July 1776, the several colonies in America (mentioning
them all by name, among which were New York and New Jersey) separated
themselves from the GovernÁment and Crown of Great Britain, and united
themselves together, and were by the people of the said respective colonies in
Congress declared and made free and indeÁpendent States by the name, and stile,
of the United States of America, and to have full power to do all acts and
things, which independent States of right may do ; that on the 3d of September
1783, by the definitive treaty of peace and friendship, made and signed at
Paris on that day between His Majesty and the said United States of America,
His Majesty acknowledged the said United States of America to be free,
sovereign, and inde-[728]-pendent, States, and treated with them as such ; that
by the said treaty the several laws which had been made, and passed, by the
Legislatures of the said respective States, after their Declaration of
Independence, for the confiscaÁtion of the property of persons within the said
respective States, were recognized and admitted to be valid ; and that before
the making of the said law of the State of New York, to wit, on the 4th of July
1776, and from thence continually hitherto, the said
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United States became, and were, divided from His Majesty's dominion and
Government, and absolutely independent thereof; and that long before, and at the
time of making the said law of the said State of New York, and from thence
hitherto, the people of the said State have exercised, and still do exercise,
sovereignty, legislation, and governÁment, within the said State of New York
separately and distinct from the legislation and Government of Great Britain;
and that the said law of the said State of New York, from the time of the
making thereof, hitherto hath been and still is in full force and effect,
&c. Joinder in demurrer to the 4th and 5th pleas, &c. Surrejoinder ;
that by the treaty of peace the said several laws, &c. were not recognized
and admitted to be valid, &c. Bebutter; that, by the first article of the
treaty, His Britannic Majesty acknowledged the said United States to be free,
sovereign, and independent, States, and treated with them as such. That, by the
5th article of the treaty, it was agreed between His Majesty and the United
States of America that the Congress should earnestly recommend it to the
Legislatures of the respective States to provide for the restitution of all
estates, rights, and properties, which had been confiscated, belonging to real
British subjects, and also the estates, rights and properties, of persons
resident in districts in the possession of His Majesty's arms, and who had not
borne arms against the said United States; and that persons of any other
description should have free liberty to go to any part of any of the thirteen
United States, and therein remain twelve months unmolested in their endeavours
to obtain restitution of such of their estates, rights, and properties, as
might have been confiscated ; that Congress should also recommend to the
several States a re-consideration and revision of Acts and laws, &c. and
should also earnestly recommend to the States that the several estates, rights,
and properties, of such last mentioned persons should be restored to them, they
refunding to any persons, who might be then, at the time of making the said
treaty, in possession, the bonti fide price (where any had been given) which
such persons might have [729] paid in purchasing the said estates, rights, or
properties, since the confiscation, &c.; and that no persons who then had
any interest in confiscated lands, either by debts or otherwise, should meet
with any impediment in the prosecuÁtion of their just rights. That the
plaintiff at the time of making the said law of the State of New York, and of
the signing the definitive treaty, was resident in a district in the possession
of His Majesty's arms within the State of New York, and had not borne arms
against the said United States. That by the 6th article of the treaty it was
agreed that there should be no future confiscation made, nor any prosecutions
commenced against any person, by reason of the part which he might have taken
in the then war, and that no person should suffer any future loss, either in
his person, liberty, or property ; and that those who might be in confinement
on such charges, at the time of the ratification of the treaty, should be
immediately set at liberty, and the prosecutions so commenced should be
discontinued, &c.
General demurrer to the rebutter,
and joinder in demurrer.
After argument in the Common Pleas,
that Court gave judgment for the plaintiff (a); on which the defendant brought
a writ of error.
Erskine, for the plaintiff in error,
contended that the treaty of peace had relation to, and ratified, the
Declaration of Independence; and that in whatever light the Acts of the State
of New York might be considered in this country previous to the treaty of
peace, yet, inasmuch as the States of America were treated with as indeÁpendent
States, and recognized as such, the Acts passed subsequent to the time of the
Declaration of Independence must be taken notice of in the Courts of Law in
this country as the Acts of a free and sovereign State. The time when the
Americans declared themselves independent is the only period to which the
treaty of peace, acknowledging them to be, and not conferring on them the right
of being for the first time, independent States, can have relation. It was so
considered by the present Lord Chancellor in Wright v. Nutt (b). If then the
Act of Confiscation, stated in the pleadings, were the Act of a sovereign and
independent State, this Court will consider it as conclusive in this country.
In Wright v. Nutt, the Lord Chancellor commenting on an Act of Confiscation by
the State of Georgia, said " It may be a question for private speculation
whether such [730] a law made in Georgia was a wise or improvident one, whether
a barbarous or civilized institution. But here we must take it as the law of an
independent country, and the laws of every country must be
(a) Vid. H. Bl. Rep. C. B. 123. (b)
Ibid. 149.
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equally regarded in Courts of Justice here, whether in private
speculation they are wise or foolish." This rule is not confined merely to
the cases of civil property : it also prevails in questions of prize (which are
in their nature penal) in the Courts of Admiralty in the different countries,
who universally give credit to each other's Acts. They are considered as
binding and conclusive on property, inasmuch as the subject matter of the
sentence is within the jurisdiction of the respective Courts in which it is
condemned. Therefore a sentence of condemnation, as prize, in a foreign Court
of Admiralty would be an answer to an action of trover brought in this country
to recover a vessel, so condemned. So if a subject of France were attainted
there, and his property were granted to another, who were to bring part of it
with him into this country, he would not be liable to restore it to the person
attainted by force of an action to be brought against him here. These instances
shew that the penal laws of one country are taken notice of in the Courts of another.
Buller, J.-In questions between a
person attainted and a wrong-doer, it is not necessary that the Crown should
actually seize the property of the former in order to divest him of it. For
though before seizure the person attainted cannot maintain an action against a
wrong-doer who is in possession of part of his property, yet that arises from
the personal disability of the plaintiff in consequence of the attainder; and
therefore if such person were afterwards pardoned, I conceive that he might
maintain such an action, notwithstanding the Crown did not re-grant to him his
property. A seizure in fact is not necessary since the statute 33 H. 8, c. 20,
which enacts that the property of persons attainted shall be adjudged in the
actual possession of the Crown, without office. And a bond, as well as a chose
in possession, is forfeited by the attainder of the obligee. Staund. P. C. 188
a. Then the Act of Confiscation in this case divested the plaintiff of his
property in the bond, and disabled him to sue on it in the Courts of Law in
this country as well as in America. A Parliamentary attainder here (to which
the Act of Confiscation may be assimilated) is at least equal to an assignment
under the bankrupt laws : now it cannot be denied but that such an assignment
would be an answer to an action brought by the bankrupt him-[731]-self, even
before the assignees had actually taken possession of the property sued for-;
on this ground, that the plaintiff has no property in the subject matter of the
action. But if this Court will not take notice of the Act of Confiscation in
America, neither will the Courts of Law in America pay any deference to the
judgment of this Court: and then the plaintiff in error may be doubly charged ;
for the recovery in this action could not be pleaded in bar to an action
brought in a Court of Law in New York on this very action ; and the judgment
here will give no cause of action to the plaintiff in error to recover his
proportion against the co-obligors in America.
Watson, Serjt. contra, was stopped by the Court.
Lord Kenyon Ch.J.-This question is
undoubtedly of considerable moment, inasÁmuch as it affects an extensive class
of persons, and inasmuch as the argument has involved in it the respective
rights of the subjects of the different nations : however the ground, on which
I am inclined to confirm the judgment given by the Court of Common Pleas, seems
perfectly clear. And indeed we all considered it so clear in the last term (a)
that we did not think it proper that the question should be discussed. Whether
oc not the report of what passed in the Court of Common Pleas in this case be
accurate (b) I will not presume to say : but I confess I was induced to think
that the word " not" had been omitted in that part of the judgment, where
the Acts of the State of New York passed during the war are considered "
to be of as full validity as the Act of any independent State " (c). For
supposing that the language aa reported to have been used by that Court, had in
fact been used, and that the case was to be determined on that ground, I should
have wished to have heard it once argued in answer to the objection made by the
plaintiff in error. If we were to consider the Acts of the province of New York
as binding, as has been contended, I am at a loss to know why all the property
of those persons, which was said to be confiscated, did not pass to the
executive power of that State to whom it was said to be forfeited; and why an
action might not have been brought in the name of such executive power
(a) Vide Dudley v. Folliott, ante,
584.
(b) Mr. Erskine said he had heard
from the best authority that the report was
accurate.
(c) Vide Folliott v. Ogden, H. Bl.
Rep. C. B. 135, 1. 12.
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to enforce the payment of this bond ; and how an action could have been
brought in the name of the obligee. Having said thus much on the judgment
supposed to have been given by the Court of [732] Common Pleas, I can only say
that at present I cannot assent to the reasoning on which that Court gave judgment,
though I am of opinion that it should be affirmed on different grounds. The
Court of Common Pleas, in giving judgment, stopped at the plea: but the
judgment, which I am prepared to give, is founded on the whole of the
pleadings, which are in substance these; the .plea states that the province of
New York in 1779, at the time when the confiscatory law passed, was part of the
dependencies of Great Britain in open rebellion against the King, and that the
plaintiff and the defendant were resident in that State; what became of them
afterwards does not appear; and it is not alleged that they were resident in,
or subject to the laws of, that State when the treaty of peace was signed. It
is not necessary to say what effect that would have had ; but thus it stands;
in 1779 that province set about a reform and to assert what is called their
rights, but which I, sitting here, am bound to say was an act of rebellion
against the sovereign power of the State, and that their act was illegal at
that time, whatever confirmation it might afterwards receive there by the
subsequent treaty of peace. Then, when these parties came into this country
before the independence of America was acknowÁledged, was their property
confiscated? Could it have been pleaded here to an action brought at that time
that those States had made what they called a law, forfeiting the property of
those who adhered to the Government of this country? Certainly not. And yet as
between these parties they must be understood to be in the same situation now
as at that time; for, whatever operation the treaty of peace might have on the
persons resident in that country, it is impossible to say that it was intended
to, or did, give effect to the Acts of the Assembly by which the property of
our own subjects resident here was confiscated. The consequence of the argument
for the plaintiff in error would be, that every act done by the loyalists in
America previous to the treaty of peace was admitted by that treaty to be an
act of high treason against the State of New York: but that can never be
supported. The plaintiff aame into this country subject to all his legal
contracts, and armed with all the legal rights, which any other subject had.-It
would be enough to stop here : but it has been said that, where the property of
a subject of one country ia confisÁcated, and vested in the Sovereign State,
every other country ought to take notice of the confiscation : but that was not
the case; for these persons never were [733] attainted by any Act of a
Sovereign State, those Acts were passed by the subjects of this country, who at
that time withdrew themselves from the Sovereign State, and assumed to
themselves a power of making laws. It might equally be said that, if the Isle
of Wight, or any town in this country, wished to throw off their allegiance to
the King, and to assert what are called the rights of man, and to declare that
they would no longer continue subjects of his Government, they would
immediately become an independent State. I am therefore most clearly of opinion
that the Act of Confis- ', cation which passed 1779 cannot be considered in
this country as competent to transfer ;, the property of Folliott to any person
whomsoever; and consequently that the right ,* of action, which accompanied him
when he came into this country, is not devested out of him. We are pressed at
the close of the argument with the peculiar circumstances of the plaintiff in
error, who, it was said, could have no remedy against his co-obligors in
America, notwithstanding the judgment here, and who might even be sued again on
this very bond in that country; but that argument ought not to guide our
judgment; for I have always understood it to be clear law that all judicial
acts done in one country over the property of the subjects within their
jurisdiction are conclusive on the property of those parties in any other
country.
Ashhurst, J.-It is sufficient for me to say that I concur in opinion
with Lord Kenyon. These parties came here as subjects of this country before
the treaty of peace; and therefore any acts done by the State of New York at
that time could not alter the rights of our own subjects. The plaintiff and the
defendant came into this country in the character of creditor and debtor; and
their situation as individuals was not affected by the Acts of Confiscation.
Buller, J.-A very few words are
sufficient to decide the present case. It is a general principle, that the
penal laws of one country cannot be taken notice of in another. Then apply that
principle to the present case : this is an action on a bond, to which the
defendant has pleaded that by the penal laws of another country the
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property of the plaintiff in the bond has been devested out of him: but
this Court cannot take notice of that defence; and then all the pleadings are a
nullity, and consequently the action remains unanswered. That is as much as is
necessary to say in the determination of this particular case. Another
question, however, having arisen in the argument, whether or not it was
necessary that there should have been a [734] seizure on the part of the State
of New York, in order to devest the property out of the plaintiff, I will give
my opinion upon it. The answer given at the Bar from the statute 33 Hen. 8, c.
20, that in this country the property of persons attainted is vested in the
Crown without office, is not conclusive; and I am still of opinion that a
seizure is necessary. The effect of that Act of Parliament is only to avoid the
necessity of an office. The case of Stone v. Newman (a) shews what conÁstruction
has been put on the statute. There, Sir T. Wyat being tenant in tail male, with
the reversion in the King, enfeoffed G. Moulton in fee; Sir T. Wyat had issue
G-. Wyat, who had iasue Sir F. Wyat, under whom the defendant claimed. But Sir
T. Wyafc was attainted, and the attainder was confirmed by a special Act of
ParliaÁment (b), enacting that he should forfeit all his lands &c. and that
they should be vested iu the Queen without office (nearly in the same words as
are used in the Statute of Henry 8). That case was very elaborately discussed
by all the Judges; and in answer to an exception (c) taken to the pleadings
that no seisin was alleged in the Queen, and that then Sir F. Wyat's title was
good until seisin, for he had the first possession, it was adjudged, "
That it appeared that, after the attainder, the Queen being entitled by the
general Act of Parliament, 33 H. 8, and by the special Act, 1 & 2 P. &
M., it was in the Queen without office; and that the Queen granted it unto him
under whom the plaintiff claimed, who entered, and was seised, until Sir F.
Wyat entered; so he had the priority of possession and right;" wherefore
the exception was disallowed. It was so material in that case to give an answer
to the objection, that the Court answered it by the fact of the case, namely,
that there was an actual seizure. The instance put at the Bar of an assignment
by the commissioners of a bankrupt, which devests the property of the bankrupt
without actual seizure, bears no analogy to this case. For there is a wide
distinction between questions of property between one subject and another, and
questions arising on the law of attainder between the Crown and a subject. And
I shall never agree in extending the same rule of construction, which obtains
in the former instance, to the latter case. It would be attended with
peculiarly serious consequences in the present state of Europe; since then the
property of foreigners, who are daily resorting for refuge to this country from
confiscations at home, would not be protected against the designs of artful men
who could gain possession of it by any means.
[735] Grose, J.-I continue of the
same opinion, which I entertained in the case of Dudley v. Folliott; and I most
perfectly concur with the Court on this occasion. It has been correctly stated
by my brother Buller, that the penal laws of one country cannot affect the laws
and rights of citizens of another. Then if we were to determine that the
plaintiff should not recover on this bond, we must say that the treaty of
independence was retrospective, and that it had the effect of declaring that
the property oi the subjects of America resident in this country was forfeited
by an Act, which at the time it passed was considered as mere waste paper, or,
if it were of any avail, was an Act of Treason. It has been objected against
the plaintiff's recovering here that the defendant will not recover in America
against the co-obligor, because the States of America will pay no regard to our
judgments ; and yet the argument is that we must pay a deference to the acts of
those persons, whom we must consider to have been in a state of rebellion at
the time when they were passed. Now if it be true that the States of America
will not take notice of the judgments given in our Courts of Law, we should be
doing great injustice to the present plaintiff to say that we must consider
ourselves bound by their Acts of Confiscation.
Judgment affirmed.